Will the right Trump birth time please stand up?

The Official Donald J. Trump birth certificate from The Jamaica Hospital, Jamaica, Borough of Queens in the city of New York, New York is here on  It states plainly that

DONALD J. TRUMP was born to MR & MRS FRED C. TRUMP in this Hospital at 10:54 AM on Friday, the Fourteenth day of JUNE A.D. 1946.


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The Official Trump Chart with the 10:54 AM Time.


Which of course begs the question how does one rectify that as we did here. The answer, unfortunately, is a sticky wicket.

Many think that birth time is when the head is shown “crowning.”  Others and my good friend CNRP (certified nurse practitioner) say that it does not work because until the baby cries it could be stillborn and so crowning, she argues is only good after the fact.  If we use Ms. Evans definition, how could we be right with 9:56 when the birth certificate says 10:54.



Loire River Valley, Loire France


Let’s tackle the hour difference first.

That is obviously the Daylight Savings Time issue.  New York State required prior to 2004 that all time be recorded in Standard Time but we do not know if out in Jamaica the nurses were that up to snuff  and did that or just looked at their watch, which was obviously in DST and write that down.  Unfortunately as Doris Chase Doane and Robert Jansky, both have books on the correct time admit that this error happens more often than not.  So removing the DST issue we are now TWO minutes late.


                                                                 How to explain that one?

We do not know that answer, only know, that a series of errors could have happened, (a) the nurse misremembered or (b) she wrote down the time that was on her wrist and not on the clock, or the (c) clock was wrong.

Logically, clocks in 1946 were not automatically adjusted to the NIST, but when someone dialed the time & updated it at that point.  From then on mechanized time pieces, even if plugged in, could lose or gain seconds that amounts to minutes over days,?  And who knows which clock she used?  I sincerely doubt it was an automatic time punch and even that is subject to electrical fluctuations (d).


Jamaica Bay, Queens — the bridge goes to Rockaway and not to Jamaica


I can give another example in the same vein.

A friend of ours, Loir, was never happy with her chart, always picking and delving into it tearing it apart, asking everyone she met to divine it because it never described her and she felt totally inadequate.  So she got a copy of the birth certificate from the hospital, having never had one figuring that was the problem.  She used that time which was 17:39.   Loir was still unhappy.

For her birthday last March, I decided to rectify Loir’s chart, and voila, the time on the birth certificate did not match. I got 17:44.  I sent it to her as a gift.  She read it and for the first time, her symbols clicked, her progressions worked, her relationship with her husband Kieran made sense (previously they had no aspects in common, now she had her Midheaven to his Ascendant) and she was happy.  Why should this be so?  Eine mysterion (it is a mystery) or look above and pick your logical reason.


Jamaica Hospital, Jamaica Queens

So we are sticking with 9:56 AM which does not change as much as you would think as his Mars 27.19 is  within the orb of Regulus at 29.50 Leo, and honestly it is when he is angry that he seems the most impervious, except of course for that hair.


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The Rectified Trump Chart with the 9:56 AM time




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  1. For most astrologers, the moment of the first breath is the moment of birth. This is the moment when the child first interacts with the world in which it will live with the chart that it has.


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