Will the right Trump birth time please stand up?

The Official Donald J. Trump birth certificate from The Jamaica Hospital, Jamaica, Borough of Queens in the city of New York, New York is here on NewsMax.com.  It states plainly that

DONALD J. TRUMP was born to MR & MRS FRED C. TRUMP in this Hospital at 10:54 AM on Friday, the Fourteenth day of JUNE A.D. 1946.


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The Official Trump Chart with the 10:54 AM Time.


Which of course begs the question how does one rectify that as we did here. The answer, unfortunately, is a sticky wicket.

Many think that birth time is when the head is shown “crowning.”  Others and my good friend CNRP (certified nurse practitioner) say that it does not work because until the baby cries it could be stillborn and so crowning, she argues is only good after the fact.  If we use Mrs. Shafer’s definition, how could we be right with 9:56 when the birth certificate says 10:54.


Loire River Valley, Loire France


Let’s tackle the hour difference first.

That is obviously the Daylight Savings Time issue.  New York State required prior to 2004 that all time be recorded in Standard Time but we do not know if out in Jamaica the nurses were that up to snuff — in the mid 40’s Jamaica Queens was considered the “boonies.”   So that is the first issue.  Next problem is whether the attending nurse looked at the main clock, or time-stamp,  or  their watch, which was obviously in DST and write that down.  Unfortunately as Doris Chase Doane and Robert Jansky, both have books on the correct time admit that this error happens more often than not.  So removing the DST issue we are now TWO minutes late.

Jamaica Bay, Queens — the bridge goes to Rockaway and not to Jamaica


I can give another example in the same vein.

A friend of ours, Loir, was never happy with her chart, always picking and delving into it tearing it apart, asking everyone she met to divine it because it never described her and she felt totally inadequate.  So she got a copy of the birth certificate from the hospital, having never had one figuring that was the problem.  She used that time which was 17:39.   Loir was still unhappy.

For her birthday last March, I decided to rectify Loir’s chart, and voila, the time on the birth certificate did not match. I got 17:44.  I sent it to her as a gift.  She read it and for the first time, her symbols clicked, her progressions worked, her relationship with her husband Kieran made sense (previously they had no aspects in common, now she had her Midheaven to his Ascendant) and she was happy.  Why should this be so?  Eine mysterion (it is a mystery) or look above and pick your logical reason.

Jamaica Hospital, Jamaica Queens

We are sticking with 9:56 AM which does not change as much as you would think :  Trump’s is Mars 27.19 & well within the orb of Regulus at 29.50 Leo.  The  Leo ascendant makes its natives tall and large boned people with conspicuous hair; especially when they are young and it is its most abundant  (see Michael Moore another Leo ascendant over here).  They have ruddy complexions, &  are rather squarish in stature.  They benefit, like the lion in the jungle, through social connections.

His Midheaven is now at 11 Taurus that gives him a dutiful character that does not shirk from his duty and with the square to Pluto 11 Leo conjunct his Ascendant, compels him to forthwithly honest.  Leo has a preponderance of martial planets, Pluto and Mars, and Saturn is semi-sextile away, and so whether you love him or hate him, no one ever feels neutral about Trump, but with the Ascendant of 20 Leo, he is destined to bring about radical changes because of his commanding presence and powerful nature.

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The Rectified Trump Chart with the 9:56 AM time





One Reply to “Will the right Trump birth time please stand up?”

  1. For most astrologers, the moment of the first breath is the moment of birth. This is the moment when the child first interacts with the world in which it will live with the chart that it has.


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